Ecker expose' - Lear/Cooper
As long as there are newer users to the UFOlogy field and to the
various UFO echoes, this text will be posted on an ongoing basis.
This is an expose' that Don Ecker wrote on Bill Cooper and John Lear.
Many of the newer users to the echo are constantly asking as to whether
or not Lear's or Cooper's claims can be taken seriously. This text
hopefully answers some of those questions.
See also Whistleblowers.
Message #7181 - ASK_UFO
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:32
From : Don Ecker
To : ALL
Subject : EXPOSE
The following message may seem a bit obtuse at first, but please
read on for a moment and you will catch what is going on.
In my job as Director of Research for UFO Magazine, I get to meet
sometimes strange but also very interesting people. Also as
Director, I oft times get documents, books, and papers for the mag
that I can peruse before most of the public. Also, having been
involved with ParaNet since the end of 1987 the beginning of 1988,
I have seen a lot happen in the field and with ParaNet both good
and bad. Late in 1987 Jim Speiser, the founder of ParaNet was at
the helm as Director. I was Co-Sysop with the old ParaNet RHO, now
no longer in service. In late December 1987, Jim Speiser received
the now famous, or perhaps more to the point, infamous *LEAR.DOC*
that set parts of the UFO field on fire. For any of you that were
not around then, for months and finally years, and now even, people
have read Lears paper, and the turmoil continued.
Months later, after Lear "surfaced", another character
hit the field. This guys name is now also famous, or more to the
point, infamous ** Milton William Cooper. Cooper, now known for his
attacks on most researchers, accusing them of being govt. agents,
etc. was much more restrained in those days. After Lear had his
paper posted, many of the then ParaNet users, had many questions
for "Lear and Co." As time went on, Lear grew tired of people
asking him about sources, etc. and more often than not would fire
back. Cooper then began to ally himself with Lear.
Cooper came on the seen with a report about having sighted a UFO
while a crew member on a U. S. Sub, the TIRU. A short while later,
after covertly sending a file to Speiser to be forwarded to Stanton
Friedman, and then also sending a file to me to send to Friedman,
( without Speiser or me knowing about the other ) Cooper began to
upload all kinds of wondrous files with some outrageous claims and
documents. Of course he also came under some fire here because he
could not prove one damn thing that he claimed either. AND, OF
COURSE ONE HELL OF A LOT MORE HAPPENED. But we will leave that for
What is all of this, and why is it here? Well, one of Coopers big
drawing cards at his $25.00 and $35.00 per head lectures has been
the Kennedy Murder. Cooper has been showing a VERY POOR COPY of the
famous Zapruder film that "looks as if" the driver of Kennedy's car
turns around and shoots him with a pistol. The film was originally
worked on by a Kennedy researcher by the name of Lars Hansson. For
any of you that read my two parter on Cooper in UFO Magazine, in
part two Hansson discussed this entire sorry episode. But you are
still asking what is this about? Ok.......
During all this business with Lear, Cooper, etc. Hansson was off
and on in Las Vegas, and spent a great deal of time with Lear.
Hansson lived for a while in Lears guest house, did odd jobs for
Lear while working on his research, and Lears UFO stuff. Hansson
was right in the middle of Lear, Cooper, Lazar, and many other
things, and for a number of reasons, Hansson and Lear "fell out".
Hansson also has been a very active researcher in illegal
government covert operations, arms trade, Iran-Contra, etc., and
has just finished an explosive expose entitled "UFOs, ALIENS, and
`Ex'-intelligence Agents: Who's Fooling Whom?" The Inside Story of
John Lear, Bill Cooper, and The Greatest Coverup in Human History.
This is a 300 page AFFIDAVIT by Lars Hansson, and is available for
$25.00 plus 3.00 postage and handling. If you are interested you
can send for it at;
Paragon Research & Publications
P.O. Bx 981
Orlando, FL. 32802
I have gone through my files, and the next several messages go back
to those days in 1988 and 1989. After I get those messages up, read
them and then in a couple days I will
upload sections from Hansson's book. If you are interested in the
real story ( other than UFO Magazine of course ) of what went on
with Lear, Cooper, the U.S. Govt. and what may have been behind
Lear, et. al, this is one that you will not want to miss.
Documents, phone calls, arms shipments, alleged involvement in the
Marcos Gold shipments, Iran-Contra, CIA airlines, CIA pilots, folks
like G. Gordon Liddy, Gordon Novel, they are all here and a part of
the story. UFOs? Yep, they are here to. The inside story on what
may have been going on at S-4, Lazar, etc. How Cooper took all
these stories and wove his tale from whole cloth. Prostitutes, bad
cops, the A.I.D.s virus, and a possible cure that had been
discovered, the whole damn thing is incredible. At any rate, the
book will give pause for thought. Ok, lets go on a short time trip
back to 1988.
PS It is late, so if parts of the above do not make much sense,
knew what it was that I wanted to say........ :-(
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:34
From : Don Ecker
To : All
Subject : Expose II
This is from October 1988
The question is often asked, why don't more military UFO
witnesses come forward publicly, and provide names, dates
and places? Surely they aren't REALLY intimidated by such
empty threats as JANAP 146-E, which provides for hefty fines
and jail sentences for breaking silence on a military UFO
sighting. Surely they realize the scientific import of
their sighting transcends any nationalist or military
considerations. If more military witnesses don't come forth
publicly, isn't it possible that there aren't really as many
as hardcore ufologists would have us believe? Its a question
I've often asked myself.
ParaNet is deeply indebted to, and a little honored by, user Bill
Cooper of Fullerton, California, for this, the first known report
of a multiple military witness sighting that occurred onboard the
submarine USS Tiru in 1966.
In 1966 during the month of the Rose Festival in the Pacific
Northwest United States, the USS Tiru SS-416 left Pearl
Harbor bound for Seattle Washington. The sub moored to a
civilian pier near the downtown Seattle area and thousands
of people toured the sub during its stay in Seattle. After
its duty as "showboat" it proceeded to a back bay area
where it underwent torpedo trials. I believe the area was
called dabob bay [pronounced day-bob] but I am not sure of
the spelling. I include the above information because it
should be easy to research. During the cruise from Pearl
to Seattle five of the crew had a very unusual experience.
During one late afternoon the sub was cruising on the
surface at approx. 10 knots when the port lookout reported
a strange contact at a range of 2 miles bearing 315 degrees
relative. The lookout refused to tell the OOD what it was
that he had seen and instead insisted that the starboard
lookout and the OOD both look at that area. The three men
looked through their binoculars toward the area reported
and were astounded to see a metal craft larger than a
football field tumble from the clouds into the ocean. It
actually tumbled end over end and when it hit the water and
sank beneath the ocean huge geysers of water rose into the
air. When the port lookout was sure that the others had
seen it he then told the OOD that he had seen it tumble
from the ocean up into the clouds. The OOD and the
starboard lookout were speechless. Within a few minutes,
however, they all became excited when it again rose from
the water and tumbled up into the cloud layer. At about
the same time a crew member below queried the bridge about
a radar contact at the same range and bearing. Sonar also
reported strange echos. The OOD called for the Captain to
come to the bridge at that time. He also called for the
camera to be sent to the bridge. The Captain arrived on
the bridge within 2 minutes and the Chief Quartermaster was
right behind him with the camera. At about the same time
the object emerged from the clouds and fell down into the
ocean. All five men witnessed this. The QMC took pictures
as it rose up into the clouds and then back down into the
ocean once again. The five men watched for quite a while
longer but nothing else happened. Soon the sub had moved
out of visual range and the Captain told all witnesses that
they were never to discuss what they had seen with anyone
under any circumstances. He stated that the incident was
classified information. The Captain then went below and
sent a radio msg. There was no doubt as to what we had
seen. It was a metal craft with machinery on and around
the outside of it. It appeared to have windows or lenses
placed around its perimeter. It made no noise that we
could hear. It did not disturb the subs electrical systems
nor did it affect the gyro compass. It looked very much
like a round flying "ship" as in sea going ship. It had
the shape and form of a saucer with a bowl inverted in the
saucer and it was huge. I will never forget it as long as
I live. When I first saw this craft I believe that my heart
literally stopped beating and I was terrified. The name of
the OOD was Ensign Ball. The starboard lookout was an
American Indian seaman that the crew called Geronimo. The
port lookout was a new man who left the sub soon after the
return to Pearl Harbor and his name was Cooper. I do not
remember the Captain's name nor the Chief Quartermaster's
name. This is the first time I have ever mentioned it
since the moment that the Captain told me that it was
classified. As far as I know it has never been reported to
the public before this instant. It should be easy to
verify the facts if you can get a copy of the log and/or
contact the other witnesses. The names should not be too
hard to find in the ships records/logs. I was the port
lookout. I must say that I feel a great uneasyness in
posting this, much like the way I felt in Vietnam when my
life was in great danger.
Message #7183 - ASK_UFO
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:35
From : Don Ecker
To : All
Subject : Expose III
ALSO FROM OCT. 1988
-In light of some of the controversy surrounding Lear.txt, perhaps
be helpful to refer to some statements attributed to John Lear's
the late William P. Lear, pertaining to possible UFO technology.
They are excerpted from the 1978 book entitled "The Cosmic
They are presented here merely as interesting anecdotes, which
be helpful to an understanding of what has influenced John Lear.
"William P. Lear, inventor and chairman of the board of Lear,
of the nation's largest electronics firms specializing in
months has been going over new developments and theories relating to
gravity with his chief scientists and engineers".
"...He is convinced that it will be possible to create
gravitational fields 'whose polarity can be controlled to cancel out
"...'All the (mass) materials and human beings within these
fields will be
part of them. They will be adjustable so as to increase or
weight of any object in its surroundings. They won't be affected
earth's gravity or that of any celestial body".
'This means that if any person was in an anti-gravitational
space ship that carried along its own gravitational field - no
fast you accelerated or changed course - your body wouldn't any
it than it now feels the speed of the earth' ".
"...Eugene M. Gluhareff, president of Gluhareff Helicopter
Corp. of Manhattan Beach, Calif., has made several theoretical
of round or saucer-shaped 'vehicles' for travel into outer space..."
It might also be of some interest to the reader that this author
the late William P. Lear making another nationwide statement on a
American television program in about 1969-70. This later statement
made in response to a question from the emcee who wanted to know
Lear envisioned the next twenty years producing in new technology.
told him that a person would be able to, say, walk into a New York
booth - somewhat similar to a telephone box in shape; - deposit
push a button; and walk out the other side of the booth in San
having been "teleported" across America in seconds! The studio
automatically laughed at Mr. Lear - much to their uninformed
Mr. Lear just gaped at their performance in utter amazement. How
sad and lonely he must have felt at that moment when he realized
gulf that separated the viewing audience from the realities he had
witnessed in the laboratory... He was a kind and sincere man; and
author, for one, feels a great loss at Mr. Lear's recent death...
In his book of 1957, entitled, "The Flying Saucer
Keyhoe also mentioned some rather indicting news on pages 200-201:
"On 2nd February, while visiting Bogota, Columbia, William P.
manufacturer of aircraft and electronic equipment, told a news
that the flying saucers are real".
"When Lear's story was flashed to the United States by the
AP, it was
a hard blow for the UFO censors. But this was only the beginning.
twenty-four hours Lear amplified his first statement: 'I feel the
saucers are real', he said, 'because of four points'. First, he
have been numerous manifestations over long periods of time. Second,
many observations have been made simultaneously by reliable
Third, there are great possibilities linked with the theory of
fields. Fourth, there are now serious efforts in progress to prove
existence of anti-gravitational forces and to convert atomic energy
directly to electricity".
"This new AP story dismayed the Pentagon, for it could easily
our top-secret research to duplicate the UFO's propulsion. There had
already been one hint despite Pentagon precautions. During a
aviation leaders in New York, on the 25th of January, G.S.
president of advance design for the Glenn L. Martin Aircraft
made an amazing disclosure... "Unlimited power, freedom form
attraction, and infinitely short travel time are now becoming
told the press. Then he added that eventually all commercial air
tation would be in vehicles operating on these fantastic
Message #7184 - ASK_UFO
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:37
From : Don Ecker
To : All
Subject : EXPOSE IV
#: 154899 S10/Paranormal Issues
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
I'd like to clear up one issue that seems to be bubbling
surface of some of these discussions.
A lot of people have taken an interest in LEAR.TXT, because
obvious spectacular nature, because of its somewhat famous author,
recently, because to the inexperienced follower, some of what John
would seem to have been born out by the recent TV special. I think
chronology of events will put things in perspective.
The two gentlemen you saw on UFO COVER-UP LIVE, Bill Moore
Shandera, have been working on the MJ-12 angle since the early part
decade. Condor and Falcon are their alleged contacts. The MJ-12
first hinted at in the fall of 1986, when they were shown to Lee
leaked them to CAUS, which published a two-part article on the
their Fall 1986 issue. The documents were first released in April
of 1987, at
which time Moore's Fair Witness Project sent them to several
among them. As far as I know, ParaNet was the first place that the
became publicly viewable.
It was around this time that John Lear was beginning to make
a name for
himself in Ufology. He showed up at the MUFON symposium in
June, where Moore, Friedman and Shandera made a splash with the
had already made a splash the previous month at the National UFO
Burbank, where they had made the first of their oft-repeated
releasing more information in the future. From the start, "more
included videotapes of government agents spilling their guts about
and telling of underground bases and secret deals.
#: 154900 S10/Paranormal Issues
Sb: LEAR.TXT continued
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
In late November or early December of 1987, John Lear went
Angeles to visit with Moore. He told me personally that Moore had
much of his information (whether that included the actual
videotapes or not, I
In late December of 1987, I received LEAR.TXT from John, and
to have it typed up and released through ParaNet. It was early
January by the
time I was able to comply.
It wasn't clear from the actual LEAR.TXT document, but in a
(which was not at first supplied to ParaNet), John had said that
constituted his "hypothesis," a sort of distillation of things he
across from various sources, including Moore, Steinman's book "UFO
Aztec," Len Stringfield's work, and information he had culled from
My point is this: I have no way of telling at this time
information presented by Moore, Shandera, Falcon or Condor is true,
is no reason for people to point to the testimonials of Falcon and
say that they tend to corroborate Lear's hypothesis, because there
to believe they are not the SOURCE of Lear's hypothess, at least in
In other words, Lear happened to have an inside track before most
of you had
even heard of this stuff.
I'm only posting this so that people's attention doesn't get
from the true issues. Whether or not Moore-Shandera-Friedman have
goods, the ball is in THEIR court and not Lear's.
There will be a further statement on this forthcoming from MSF
themselves. Watch for it here.
Message #7185 - ASK_UFO
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:38
From : Don Ecker
To : All
Subject : EXPOSE V
From 1988, but since this was uploaded, the author, Milton Cooper
it six or seven times.
DISCLOSURE OF THIS INFORMATION IS AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT AND
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE GROUP KNOWN AS
TWELVE HAS ENGAGED IN A VILE CONSPIRACY THAT HAS IGNORED THE LAW OF
AND THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS FOUNDED
HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO INSTITUTE UNLAWFUL AND DANGEROUS
WHICH HAS ENDANGERED THE NATION AND THE HUMAN RACE. THE DISCLOSURE
CONSISTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT T E
OF THE UNITED STATES. WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS DISCLOSURE WILL
OTHERS CONNECTED WITH THIS CONSPIRACY TO MAKE SIMILAR DISCLOSURES.
THAT THIS STATEMENT REMAIN ATTACHED TO THIS INFORMATION. WE SEEK
NO REWARD OR
PUBLIC ACCLAIM. WE ONLY SEEK TO EXPOSE THIS ACT AS A CRIMINAL
THE UNITED STATES AND THE HUMAN RACE.
MAJESTIC TWELVE (PROWORD) MAJIC
MAJESTIC TWELVE, MAJESTIC 12, MAJESTIC-12, MJ-12, MAJIC, are all
forms of the
code name for the control group authorized by President Truman on
The Director of the Central Intelligenge Agency (CIA) is the
Majestic Twelve, MJ-1. The control group was formed to oversee a
Research and Development & Intelligence Operation and was
responsible only to
the President. The need for this group was dictated by the finding
downed FLYING SAUCER scattered over 2 sites near the town of
Mexico in July 1947. The dead bodys of 4 very small human like
also found. MAJESTIC TWELVE is the most highly classified secret
United States and its existance has never been divulged to
funds for MJ-12 and Aquarius are CIA confidential (non-appropriated).
MAJESTIC TWELVE documents can be identified by the following;
TOP SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED DATA EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP
SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP
EYES ONLY COPY___OF___
One of the above will appear both at the top and bottom of each
will never see one version in a document along with any other
on each page will appear; T52-EXEMPT (E) or just EXEMPT. T52 is the
publication outlining procedures for automatic downgrade of all
classifications and the time period for declassification of each
level. This information is never to be declassified. Each page of
document will be numbered consecutively and the number of pages
upon the cover sheet. Copys of MAJESTIC TWELVE beyond the original
PROJECTS under MAJESTIC TWELVE
The operations listed here were current as late as 1976 with absolute
certainty and are still operational to the best of our knowledge.
of the original operations were changed several times over the
eventually evolved into those listed.
PROJECT SIGN (PROWORD) MAJIC
The first project under MAJESTIC TWELVE. The mission of project
essentially the same as that which PROJECT AQUARIUS evolved into.
SIGN referred to aliens as Extraterrestrial Biological Entities.
for the absorbtion of PROJECT SIGN by PROJECT AQUARIUS were mainly
political and security nature. PROJECT AQUARIUS stripped the Air
Army Generals of their historic control of the UFO/IAC projects and
most of it under the Intelligence umbrella.
PROJECT AQUARIUS (PROWORD) MAJIC
Established in 1953 by President Eisenhower under control of MJ-12
SIGN. The Project contains all information collected by the United
since it began investigating UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects)
(Identified Alien Craft). At the time we saw this information it
approximately 15 or 16 volumes. This project became an independent
when PROJECT SIGN was eliminated in 1960. PROJECT AQUARIUS referred
as Alien Life Forms. The mission of PROJECT AQUARIUS was to gather
scientific, technological, medical, and intelligence information
from UFO &
IAC sightings and contacts with Alien Life Forms. The information
was to be
used in the space program.
PROJECT SIGMA (PROWORD) AQUARIUS
Established in 1954 as part of PROJECT SIGN. The mission of PROJECT
to establish communication with the aliens. First communication was
established in 1959 through binary computer language. On April 25,
1964 a USAF
(OSI) officer met with aliens at a prearranged desert location in
Information was exchanged and a basic understanding was reached
hours. It was learned through this effort that several species of
life existed. Communication was eventually established with all of
Through communications it was determined that 3 catagorys existed.
catagorys are MALEVOLENT (DANGEROUS), BENEVOLENT (GOOD-HELPFUL),
(OBSERVERS ONLY) The project has been extremely successful.
PROJECT PLATO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1960 after the
established communications with the aliens. The mission of PROJECT
to establ ish diplomatic re lations with the aliens. Project Plato
agreements in order to prevent hostilitys between the United States
aliens. An agreement was made with the MALEVOLENT aliens whereby
abduct humans. The purpose of these abductions were to provide
other biological fluids as food for the aliens. The aliens agreed
to furnish a
list periodically to MJ-12 of the names of those abducted. PROJECT
whatever steps neccessary to prevent public disclosure.
* PROJECT PLUTO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS
Established in 1947 after the Roswell incident. The mission of
was to recover all crashed or downed alien craft, to recover all
alien presence or technology, and to recover all alien bodies
(alive or dead).
PROJECT PLUTO developed cover stories to satisfy press and civilian
PROJECT PLUTO was authorized use of deadly force and/or relocation
secrecy. PROJECT PLUTO was responsible for and biological
intelligence of the
Alien Life Forms.
PROJECT POUNCE (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1968. The
PROJECT POUNCE was to evaluate all UFO/IAC information pertaining
technology. The goal was to duplicate the technology and/or
improve upon it.
Ultimate use of the technology would establish the United States as
dominate world power and close the gap in any confrontation with
PROJECT REDLIGHT (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1954. The
REDLIGHT was to test a recovered alien craft. The mission was
part only. PROJECT REDLIGHT was terminated in 1963 after every
recovered craft exploded during test flights. There were no
the human test pilots.
PROJECT SNOWBIRD (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The
PROJECT SNOWBIRD was to test fly a recovered alien craft. The
project was on
going the last time I saw this information.
PROJECT ???????? (PROWORD) AQUARIUS (NOTE...We are recall the name
project nor have we been able to get response from anyone on it.
At the time
we saw the information the project was ongoing. It cannot be
this project is still in existence.) The mission of this project
develop a low frequency pulsed sound generator. The energy
produced from this
generator was to be concentrated so that it could be aimed and used
weapon in order to destroy the alien craft and beam weapons. The
weapons were described as ange but able to incapacitate or destroy
system known to date (1972). The aliens also possess a beam weapon
described as being able to paralyse any human within range. Tests
described as having shown that the alien craft and weapons were
sensitive to low frequency pulsed sound waves. This weapon was to
be used to
incapacitate the alien defenses in order to allow PROJECT EXCALIBUR
in its mission. The initial technology used in this project was
Germans during WW- II. The German sound generators were described
able to knock down reinforced concrete buildings and shatter 4"
from a great range. This technology is believed to further
Germany had recovered alien craft and had possibly had some
dealings with the
aliens prior to or during WW-II. Documents captured during and
indicated that an alien craft had been recovered by Germany in
1939. A German
built flying saucer was captured dur last few months of WW-II.
PROJECT EXCALIBUR (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The
PROJECT EXCALIBUR is to develop a weapons system capable of
alien underground base after the alien beam weapons have been
destroyed. The alien underground base is located beneath an indian
reservation near the small town of Dulce, New Mexico. The device
capable of penetrating 1,000 meters of tufa / hard pack soil and
operational damage. This typ is commonly found in New Mexico where
base is located. Missile apogee must not exceed 30,000 feet AGL.
deviation will now exceed 50 meters. The device will carry a 1
PROJECT BLUE BOOK A U.S. Air Force project establiahed to determine
UFO's pose a threat to the security of the United States and to
whether UFO's exhibit any unique scientific information or advanced
which could contribute to scientific or technical research.
successful in its primary mission outlined above. PROJECT BLUE
BOOK was not
quite so successful in its secondary mission which was to publicly
away the UFO phenomenon as natural or known phenomenon in order to
public interest. To completely fulfill the secondary mission it
that an outside commission of distinguished scientists would be con
order to permanantly lay the issue to rest. After this 'study' was
(Condon Commission) the Air Force state the continuation of Project
cannot be justified, either on the ground of national security or
interest of science. PROJECT BLUE BOOK was abandoned and its
information was consolidated under PROJECT AQUARIUS in 1969.
SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS Contracted to the
of Colorado in 1966 and Chaired by Dr. Edward U. Condon. The
results of the
panel were dictated before the first meeting. Despite objections
of the other
panel members, Dr. Cond le to fulfill the mission. The general
that "nothing has come from the study of UFOs in the past 21 years
added to scientific knowledge." A panel from the National Academy
agreed. The press and the public were satisfied. Except for a hard
element of UFO believers the issue died in the public forum.
OPERATION UFO (NSA OPERATION IN SUPPORT OF PROJECT PLUTO) The
Operation UFO was to form intelligence teams versed in all of the
learned which would be the first on scene of any UFO crash site in
secure the technology and prevent it from falling into foreign
teams existed over the world. The United States was specifically
that it did not fall into Soviet hands. This mission was to be
no matter the country of occurrance. Many subsequent ALIEN CRAFT
would occur in foreign countrys as well as the United States. UFO
used to recover downed space hardware (especially So d to recover
weapons which became lost (usually by accident).
OPERATION MOONDUST (SUPPORTED SPACE PROGRAM & UFO) The mission of
Moondust was to provide a cover which would neutralize public
recovery of an ALIEN CRAFT was being conducted. The teams that
made up the
compliment of Moondust were the same teams that made up UFO.
Moondust was made
public and its mission (to the public) was to identify and recover
States space hardware which might fall to earth. s a bonified
OPERATION BLUEFLY (SUPPORTED UFO & MOONDUST) The mission of
was to provide QUICK REACTION COMBAT TEAMS known as ALPHA teams
technology if neccessary), mechanical and technological support in
rapid and secure transport to secure storage and examination areas.
several of these storage and examination areas in order to limit
traveled and thus limit the possible chance of an accident that cou
e cargo to
public knowledge. Several teams existed over the world. Recovery
transport of both EBEs (dead or alive) and Alien craft were
Bluefly was also utilized in event of recovery of space objects (of
terrestrial origin), and event of recovery of lost nuclear weapons
due to accident).
NOTE....This account of the history and current status of MAJESTIC
the Alien Life Forms has been kept brief. We believe that the
has been served with th on provided. The whole story would fill
hundred volumes. We realize that even with the combined effort of
memorys we have probably made some mistakes. We have tried to
mistakes and feel that what is represented is true and correct to
the best of
our combined knowledge.
Message #7186 - ASK_UFO
Date : 30-Aug-91 0:40
From : Don Ecker
To : All
Subject : EXPOSE VI
LEAR AND COOPER: AN EXPLANATION
(But Not an Apology)
Ordinarily, I don't feel I have to explain my actions
board or this network. I think I've developed a pretty good
tion for reliability and fairness. I certainly owe nothing
way of an explanation to Messrs. Cooper and Lear. However, I
where some confusion may have arisen regarding my actions,
ly on the part of Don Ecker, whom I have a great deal of
for, and on the part of other users who have discreetly
to my reasons.
These things always seem to come best in the form of
and so, a brief chronology follows.
Bill Cooper first contacted this board with a story of a
had on board a submarine in 1966. The story (TIRU-1.UFO) was
ed to Vickie Cooper for inclusion in a possible story in
zine. It was also sent to Stan Friedman for verification.
back in August.
I learned from Vickie Cooper that Bill (no relation) had had a con-
versation with her in which the Majestic-12 documents had come
she mentioned the "proword" "MAJIC", he claimed to have seen
that word on
several documents back in his days with CINCPACFLT (Commander
Pacific Fleet). About a week later, I received the first of many
Cooper, in which he implied that he had firsthand contact with or
individuals connected with MJ-12. (see GUIDANCE.DOC). He
that anyone possessing this knowledge was in great danger. I
this file to both Stanton Friedman and Jamie Shandera, to see
whether any of
the information in it checked out. I later found out that it did not.
In the meantime, Cooper took a more active role in the public mes-
sage base. He claimed publicly that he had lost his $75,000/year job
as a marketing director, two days after having spoken with Stan
Friedman. He stated that he would not be providing any more info for
this reason. In the meantime, several more documents written by
Cooper filtered through the ParaNet system, by way of our Ft. Smith
board. They were uploaded anonymously, but were written by Cooper.
They each contained the same preamble, which claimed that the info
was for myself and for Stanton Friedman only, and that we were in
great danger for possessing the info contained therein. (DANGER.DOC,
At around this time, a user named Jeff Felix began using the
asked via chat for a private meeting between him and myself. We
set up a
meet at the Jerry's on Scottsdale Road in Tempe (the same one at
Phoenix Skeptics hold their monthly meetings.) At this meeting,
is all of about 24, told a bizarre tale of having been an NSA
technician, of having been "fooling around" on the NSA
computer, trying to
come up with an encryption program, and had "stumbled across"
file, the Aquarius file, the whole ball of wax. "Its all true," he
"the underground bases, the aliens, the crashed saucers, etc." He
that with a modified modem, he could get back in to the files.
was extremely skeptical, and a few days later when I asked Felix a
questions on the phone, testing his knowledge of the most basic
terminology, I became flat-out incredulous when he failed the
What was even more revealing was that Bill Cooper had provided me
of the questions I asked Felix, and I have a captured chat session
Cooper in which he expressed his doubts of Felix's veracity.
In my last online chat with Felix, he mentioned something called
Project X-calibur (his spelling). He said he had discussed it with
Cooper on the phone before he had called me. Cooper later told me
that no, Felix had not mentioned it. He told me he had heard of it,
but that it was VERY Top Secret, above his level. He said he didn't
know anything more about it.
Much to my surprise, Cooper later called to tell me that Project
Excalibur is real, that his sources told him it was a project by MJ-
12 to extract technology from the aliens. He told me that it was
important I get in touch with Felix, that if "the kid knows about
[Excalibur], he's for real." Felix, in the meantime, would give me
no information about Excalibur, except that a friend of his who had
done the same thing he had (broken into the NSA's Cray-3 computer,
the most advanced and secure supercomputer in the world), had "stum-
bled across" the Excalibur file.
My thinking on Cooper and Felix at this time began to center on the
thought that the two of them were scamming me behind my back, and I
had visions of having ParaNet become a home for unwed paranoids.
When John Lear returned from his long absence, and began to join
with Cooper in a series of mutual admiration sessions, I saw things
getting out of control.
I knew by now that Cooper was either engaging in fantasy role-play-
ing, or something more sinister. The word "disinformation" has been
bandied about quite freely during this entire MJ-12 mess. Now,
please consider: Cooper's credentials as a Naval NCO with a back-
ground in intelligence seem to check out. His information is self-
contradicting and paranoid, and does NOT check out, at least
several intelligence sources I have contacted. After the UFO
broadcast, Cooper sent ANOTHER file by way of ParaNet RHO in
his 10-15-88 Position Paper. In it he completely contradicts his
previous thesis, and claims that the MJ-12 scenario as painted by
group (and implicitly, by himself) is a hoax. Further, he claims
to be in
full agreement with John Lear (which agreement seems to be
on Lear's support of Cooper). Now I ask you, if agents of
at work to discredit the field of Ufology, who is the more
suspect? Moore/Shandera/Friedman, who claimed from the
beginning to have
videotapes of bona fide government agents, and produced them
for live TV,
or Cooper/Lear, who seemingly plagiarized the Moore documents,
a slightly different spin, then turned around and contradicted
the moment it became public knowledge, and can't even seem to
each other, yet support each other publicly? My locking out of
actually on the advice of Cooper himself, who accused William
Pitts and the
New Project Blue Book of being a military intelligence cover
ParaNet of being an unwitting disinformation pipeline. To avoid
such a pipeline, which I'm sure no one here wants, I simply got
rid of the
most likely suspect.
As to Lear, I don't think any self-respecting Sysop would
being accused of borderline treason on his public board,
especially from a
man who proudly displays in his office enlarged telephoto-graphs
installation at Groom Lake, the country's most secret tactical
development area, obtained by himself after attempting to enter
area illegally. His unqualified support for Cooper, which seems
based solely on Cooper's unqualified support for him, I found
distasteful and somehow disturbing, in light of the fact that
contradicted Lear's information. And consider: John Lear entered
early 1987, when it became known to a few that Moore was going
MJ-12. Lear is known to have been a CIA operative in the past. He
patriotism on his office walls, in the form of autographed
pictures of him-
self standing with G. Gordon Liddy. Again, if disinformation
place, I ask you, who is the more likely source?
And is it working? Well, consider. What if
DO have the real goods? If so, isn't it a shame that
intelligent people, people such as Don Ecker, watched UFO
LIVE, and instead of asking if MSF were for real, began
Lear and Cooper were for real? This, despite the obvious
dictions and obfuscations listed below:
"The documents you are looking for are for the most part
SECRET MAJIC-RESTRICTED DATA" -- Bill Cooper, 22 August
"EVERY DOCUMENT YOU SEE WHICH USES...`MAJIC' IS A FRAUD!"
Cooper, 15 October
"The documents produced by Mr. Moore et al are photographic
of genuine documents which were procured at great risk."
Cooper, 22 August
"I CAN PROVE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT TO ANYONE THAT MOST
INFORMATION RELEASED BY WILLIAM MOORE, ET AL...ARE
DELIBERATE FORGERIES." -- Bill Cooper, 15 October
"Hmmm...let me think on that one for a while." -- Bill
I told him that the Aquarius Telex contained a
routing code at the top that indicated to anyone trained in
communications/intelligence that the document was either
or to be ignored for some reason. Phone conversation, 11 October
"The code is ZNY." -- Bill Cooper, phone conversation, 12
"I got it, Jim, I just remembered after I hung up with you,
ZNY, that means something else, but its _________" (my
Bill Cooper, phone conversation, 12 October
"There is a code at the head of the AQUARIUS TELEX that
that the information contained within it is not to be acted
in any way believed...________ on the telex net informs all
that the message CANNOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY...The code is
type of slang/graffiti that was used by a lot of enlisted
sometimes by officers. I had a lot of fun with a
Ufologists on that one. THEY STILL BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE
ME." -- Bill Cooper, 15 October
Emphasis and deletions above are in the originals
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