Ecker expose' - Lear/Cooper

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As long as there are newer users to the UFOlogy field and to the

various UFO echoes, this text will be posted on an ongoing basis.

This is an expose' that Don Ecker wrote on Bill Cooper and John Lear.

Many of the newer users to the echo are constantly asking as to whether

or not Lear's or Cooper's claims can be taken seriously. This text

hopefully answers some of those questions.

See also Whistleblowers.

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Message #7181 - ASK_UFO

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:32

From : Don Ecker

To : ALL

Subject : EXPOSE

The following message may seem a bit obtuse at first, but please

read on for a moment and you will catch what is going on.

In my job as Director of Research for UFO Magazine, I get to meet

sometimes strange but also very interesting people. Also as

Director, I oft times get documents, books, and papers for the mag

that I can peruse before most of the public. Also, having been

involved with ParaNet since the end of 1987 the beginning of 1988,

I have seen a lot happen in the field and with ParaNet both good

and bad. Late in 1987 Jim Speiser, the founder of ParaNet was at

the helm as Director. I was Co-Sysop with the old ParaNet RHO, now

no longer in service. In late December 1987, Jim Speiser received

the now famous, or perhaps more to the point, infamous *LEAR.DOC*

that set parts of the UFO field on fire. For any of you that were

not around then, for months and finally years, and now even, people

have read Lears paper, and the turmoil continued.

Months later, after Lear "surfaced", another character

hit the field. This guys name is now also famous, or more to the

point, infamous ** Milton William Cooper. Cooper, now known for his

attacks on most researchers, accusing them of being govt. agents,

etc. was much more restrained in those days. After Lear had his

paper posted, many of the then ParaNet users, had many questions

for "Lear and Co." As time went on, Lear grew tired of people

asking him about sources, etc. and more often than not would fire

back. Cooper then began to ally himself with Lear.

Cooper came on the seen with a report about having sighted a UFO

while a crew member on a U. S. Sub, the TIRU. A short while later,

after covertly sending a file to Speiser to be forwarded to Stanton

Friedman, and then also sending a file to me to send to Friedman,

( without Speiser or me knowing about the other ) Cooper began to

upload all kinds of wondrous files with some outrageous claims and

documents. Of course he also came under some fire here because he

could not prove one damn thing that he claimed either. AND, OF

COURSE ONE HELL OF A LOT MORE HAPPENED. But we will leave that for

another day.

What is all of this, and why is it here? Well, one of Coopers big

drawing cards at his $25.00 and $35.00 per head lectures has been

the Kennedy Murder. Cooper has been showing a VERY POOR COPY of the

famous Zapruder film that "looks as if" the driver of Kennedy's car

turns around and shoots him with a pistol. The film was originally

worked on by a Kennedy researcher by the name of Lars Hansson. For

any of you that read my two parter on Cooper in UFO Magazine, in

part two Hansson discussed this entire sorry episode. But you are

still asking what is this about? Ok.......

During all this business with Lear, Cooper, etc. Hansson was off

and on in Las Vegas, and spent a great deal of time with Lear.

Hansson lived for a while in Lears guest house, did odd jobs for

Lear while working on his research, and Lears UFO stuff. Hansson

was right in the middle of Lear, Cooper, Lazar, and many other

things, and for a number of reasons, Hansson and Lear "fell out".

Hansson also has been a very active researcher in illegal

government covert operations, arms trade, Iran-Contra, etc., and

has just finished an explosive expose entitled "UFOs, ALIENS, and

`Ex'-intelligence Agents: Who's Fooling Whom?" The Inside Story of

John Lear, Bill Cooper, and The Greatest Coverup in Human History.

This is a 300 page AFFIDAVIT by Lars Hansson, and is available for

$25.00 plus 3.00 postage and handling. If you are interested you

can send for it at;

Paragon Research & Publications

P.O. Bx 981

Orlando, FL. 32802

I have gone through my files, and the next several messages go back

to those days in 1988 and 1989. After I get those messages up, read

them and then in a couple days I will

upload sections from Hansson's book. If you are interested in the

real story ( other than UFO Magazine of course ) of what went on

with Lear, Cooper, the U.S. Govt. and what may have been behind

Lear, et. al, this is one that you will not want to miss.

Documents, phone calls, arms shipments, alleged involvement in the

Marcos Gold shipments, Iran-Contra, CIA airlines, CIA pilots, folks

like G. Gordon Liddy, Gordon Novel, they are all here and a part of

the story. UFOs? Yep, they are here to. The inside story on what

may have been going on at S-4, Lazar, etc. How Cooper took all

these stories and wove his tale from whole cloth. Prostitutes, bad

cops, the A.I.D.s virus, and a possible cure that had been

discovered, the whole damn thing is incredible. At any rate, the

book will give pause for thought. Ok, lets go on a short time trip

back to 1988.

Don Ecker

PS It is late, so if parts of the above do not make much sense,

remember, I

knew what it was that I wanted to say........ :-(

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:34

From : Don Ecker

To : All

Subject : Expose II

This is from October 1988

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The question is often asked, why don't more military UFO

witnesses come forward publicly, and provide names, dates

and places? Surely they aren't REALLY intimidated by such

empty threats as JANAP 146-E, which provides for hefty fines

and jail sentences for breaking silence on a military UFO

sighting. Surely they realize the scientific import of

their sighting transcends any nationalist or military

considerations. If more military witnesses don't come forth

publicly, isn't it possible that there aren't really as many

as hardcore ufologists would have us believe? Its a question

I've often asked myself.

ParaNet is deeply indebted to, and a little honored by, user Bill

Cooper of Fullerton, California, for this, the first known report

of a multiple military witness sighting that occurred onboard the

submarine USS Tiru in 1966.

--Jim Speiser

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In 1966 during the month of the Rose Festival in the Pacific

Northwest United States, the USS Tiru SS-416 left Pearl

Harbor bound for Seattle Washington. The sub moored to a

civilian pier near the downtown Seattle area and thousands

of people toured the sub during its stay in Seattle. After

its duty as "showboat" it proceeded to a back bay area

where it underwent torpedo trials. I believe the area was

called dabob bay [pronounced day-bob] but I am not sure of

the spelling. I include the above information because it

should be easy to research. During the cruise from Pearl

to Seattle five of the crew had a very unusual experience.

During one late afternoon the sub was cruising on the

surface at approx. 10 knots when the port lookout reported

a strange contact at a range of 2 miles bearing 315 degrees

relative. The lookout refused to tell the OOD what it was

that he had seen and instead insisted that the starboard

lookout and the OOD both look at that area. The three men

looked through their binoculars toward the area reported

and were astounded to see a metal craft larger than a

football field tumble from the clouds into the ocean. It

actually tumbled end over end and when it hit the water and

sank beneath the ocean huge geysers of water rose into the

air. When the port lookout was sure that the others had

seen it he then told the OOD that he had seen it tumble

from the ocean up into the clouds. The OOD and the

starboard lookout were speechless. Within a few minutes,

however, they all became excited when it again rose from

the water and tumbled up into the cloud layer. At about

the same time a crew member below queried the bridge about

a radar contact at the same range and bearing. Sonar also

reported strange echos. The OOD called for the Captain to

come to the bridge at that time. He also called for the

camera to be sent to the bridge. The Captain arrived on

the bridge within 2 minutes and the Chief Quartermaster was

right behind him with the camera. At about the same time

the object emerged from the clouds and fell down into the

ocean. All five men witnessed this. The QMC took pictures

as it rose up into the clouds and then back down into the

ocean once again. The five men watched for quite a while

longer but nothing else happened. Soon the sub had moved

out of visual range and the Captain told all witnesses that

they were never to discuss what they had seen with anyone

under any circumstances. He stated that the incident was

classified information. The Captain then went below and

sent a radio msg. There was no doubt as to what we had

seen. It was a metal craft with machinery on and around

the outside of it. It appeared to have windows or lenses

placed around its perimeter. It made no noise that we

could hear. It did not disturb the subs electrical systems

nor did it affect the gyro compass. It looked very much

like a round flying "ship" as in sea going ship. It had

the shape and form of a saucer with a bowl inverted in the

saucer and it was huge. I will never forget it as long as

I live. When I first saw this craft I believe that my heart

literally stopped beating and I was terrified. The name of

the OOD was Ensign Ball. The starboard lookout was an

American Indian seaman that the crew called Geronimo. The

port lookout was a new man who left the sub soon after the

return to Pearl Harbor and his name was Cooper. I do not

remember the Captain's name nor the Chief Quartermaster's

name. This is the first time I have ever mentioned it

since the moment that the Captain told me that it was

classified. As far as I know it has never been reported to

the public before this instant. It should be easy to

verify the facts if you can get a copy of the log and/or

contact the other witnesses. The names should not be too

hard to find in the ships records/logs. I was the port

lookout. I must say that I feel a great uneasyness in

posting this, much like the way I felt in Vietnam when my

life was in great danger.

Message #7183 - ASK_UFO

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:35

From : Don Ecker

To : All

Subject : Expose III

ALSO FROM OCT. 1988

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-In light of some of the controversy surrounding Lear.txt, perhaps

it would

be helpful to refer to some statements attributed to John Lear's

father,

the late William P. Lear, pertaining to possible UFO technology.

They are excerpted from the 1978 book entitled "The Cosmic

Conspiracy".

They are presented here merely as interesting anecdotes, which

may also

be helpful to an understanding of what has influenced John Lear.

-Tom Mickus

Excerpt #1

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"William P. Lear, inventor and chairman of the board of Lear,

Inc., one

of the nation's largest electronics firms specializing in

aviation, for

months has been going over new developments and theories relating to

gravity with his chief scientists and engineers".

"...He is convinced that it will be possible to create

artificial electro-

gravitational fields 'whose polarity can be controlled to cancel out

gravity".

"...'All the (mass) materials and human beings within these

fields will be

part of them. They will be adjustable so as to increase or

decrease the

weight of any object in its surroundings. They won't be affected

by the

earth's gravity or that of any celestial body".

'This means that if any person was in an anti-gravitational

airplane or

space ship that carried along its own gravitational field - no

matter how

fast you accelerated or changed course - your body wouldn't any

more feel

it than it now feels the speed of the earth' ".

"...Eugene M. Gluhareff, president of Gluhareff Helicopter

and Airplane

Corp. of Manhattan Beach, Calif., has made several theoretical

design studies

of round or saucer-shaped 'vehicles' for travel into outer space..."

It might also be of some interest to the reader that this author

witnessed

the late William P. Lear making another nationwide statement on a

daytime,

American television program in about 1969-70. This later statement

was

made in response to a question from the emcee who wanted to know

what Mr.

Lear envisioned the next twenty years producing in new technology.

Mr. Lear

told him that a person would be able to, say, walk into a New York

"travel"

booth - somewhat similar to a telephone box in shape; - deposit

his fare;

push a button; and walk out the other side of the booth in San

Francisco -

having been "teleported" across America in seconds! The studio

audience

automatically laughed at Mr. Lear - much to their uninformed

discredit.

Mr. Lear just gaped at their performance in utter amazement. How

painfully

sad and lonely he must have felt at that moment when he realized

the great

gulf that separated the viewing audience from the realities he had

already

witnessed in the laboratory... He was a kind and sincere man; and

this

author, for one, feels a great loss at Mr. Lear's recent death...

Excerpt #2

===========

In his book of 1957, entitled, "The Flying Saucer

Conspiracy", Donald

Keyhoe also mentioned some rather indicting news on pages 200-201:

"On 2nd February, while visiting Bogota, Columbia, William P.

Lear

manufacturer of aircraft and electronic equipment, told a news

conference

that the flying saucers are real".

"When Lear's story was flashed to the United States by the

AP, it was

a hard blow for the UFO censors. But this was only the beginning.

Within

twenty-four hours Lear amplified his first statement: 'I feel the

flying

saucers are real', he said, 'because of four points'. First, he

said, there

have been numerous manifestations over long periods of time. Second,

many observations have been made simultaneously by reliable

observers.

Third, there are great possibilities linked with the theory of

gravitational

fields. Fourth, there are now serious efforts in progress to prove

the

existence of anti-gravitational forces and to convert atomic energy

directly to electricity".

"This new AP story dismayed the Pentagon, for it could easily

disclose

our top-secret research to duplicate the UFO's propulsion. There had

already been one hint despite Pentagon precautions. During a

meeting of

aviation leaders in New York, on the 25th of January, G.S.

Trimble, vice-

president of advance design for the Glenn L. Martin Aircraft

Company, had

made an amazing disclosure... "Unlimited power, freedom form

gravitational

attraction, and infinitely short travel time are now becoming

feasible', he

told the press. Then he added that eventually all commercial air

transpor-

tation would be in vehicles operating on these fantastic

principles".

Message #7184 - ASK_UFO

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:37

From : Don Ecker

To : All

Subject : EXPOSE IV

From 1988

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#: 154899 S10/Paranormal Issues

25-Oct-88 02:25:12

Sb: LEAR.TXT

Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424

To: All

I'd like to clear up one issue that seems to be bubbling

under the

surface of some of these discussions.

A lot of people have taken an interest in LEAR.TXT, because

of its

obvious spectacular nature, because of its somewhat famous author,

and more

recently, because to the inexperienced follower, some of what John

has said

would seem to have been born out by the recent TV special. I think

a short

chronology of events will put things in perspective.

The two gentlemen you saw on UFO COVER-UP LIVE, Bill Moore

and Jamie

Shandera, have been working on the MJ-12 angle since the early part

of this

decade. Condor and Falcon are their alleged contacts. The MJ-12

documents were

first hinted at in the fall of 1986, when they were shown to Lee

Graham, who

leaked them to CAUS, which published a two-part article on the

documents in

their Fall 1986 issue. The documents were first released in April

of 1987, at

which time Moore's Fair Witness Project sent them to several

Ufologists,

myself

among them. As far as I know, ParaNet was the first place that the

documents

became publicly viewable.

It was around this time that John Lear was beginning to make

a name for

himself in Ufology. He showed up at the MUFON symposium in

Washington that

June, where Moore, Friedman and Shandera made a splash with the

Documents.

They

had already made a splash the previous month at the National UFO

Conference in

Burbank, where they had made the first of their oft-repeated

promises of

releasing more information in the future. From the start, "more

information"

included videotapes of government agents spilling their guts about

the

cover-up

and telling of underground bases and secret deals.

#: 154900 S10/Paranormal Issues

25-Oct-88 02:25:35

Sb: LEAR.TXT continued

Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424

To: All

In late November or early December of 1987, John Lear went

to Los

Angeles to visit with Moore. He told me personally that Moore had

shown him

much of his information (whether that included the actual

videotapes or not, I

don't know).

In late December of 1987, I received LEAR.TXT from John, and

was asked

to have it typed up and released through ParaNet. It was early

January by the

time I was able to comply.

It wasn't clear from the actual LEAR.TXT document, but in a

cover

letter

(which was not at first supplied to ParaNet), John had said that

the contents

constituted his "hypothesis," a sort of distillation of things he

had come

across from various sources, including Moore, Steinman's book "UFO

Crash at

Aztec," Len Stringfield's work, and information he had culled from

several

intelligence contacts.

My point is this: I have no way of telling at this time

whether the

information presented by Moore, Shandera, Falcon or Condor is true,

but there

is no reason for people to point to the testimonials of Falcon and

Condor and

say that they tend to corroborate Lear's hypothesis, because there

is no

reason

to believe they are not the SOURCE of Lear's hypothess, at least in

large

part.

In other words, Lear happened to have an inside track before most

of you had

even heard of this stuff.

I'm only posting this so that people's attention doesn't get

misdirected

from the true issues. Whether or not Moore-Shandera-Friedman have

the real

goods, the ball is in THEIR court and not Lear's.

There will be a further statement on this forthcoming from MSF

themselves. Watch for it here.

Jim

Message #7185 - ASK_UFO

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:38

From : Don Ecker

To : All

Subject : EXPOSE V

From 1988, but since this was uploaded, the author, Milton Cooper

has changed

it six or seven times.

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DISCLOSURE OF THIS INFORMATION IS AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT AND

PRESERVE THE

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE GROUP KNOWN AS

MAJESTIC

TWELVE HAS ENGAGED IN A VILE CONSPIRACY THAT HAS IGNORED THE LAW OF

THE LAND

AND THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS FOUNDED

UPON. THEY

HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO INSTITUTE UNLAWFUL AND DANGEROUS

PROJECTS

WHICH HAS ENDANGERED THE NATION AND THE HUMAN RACE. THE DISCLOSURE

GROUP

CONSISTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT T E

CONSTITUTION

OF THE UNITED STATES. WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS DISCLOSURE WILL

ENCOURAGE

OTHERS CONNECTED WITH THIS CONSPIRACY TO MAKE SIMILAR DISCLOSURES.

WE ASK

THAT THIS STATEMENT REMAIN ATTACHED TO THIS INFORMATION. WE SEEK

NO REWARD OR

PUBLIC ACCLAIM. WE ONLY SEEK TO EXPOSE THIS ACT AS A CRIMINAL

ASSUALT UPON

THE UNITED STATES AND THE HUMAN RACE.

MAJESTIC TWELVE (PROWORD) MAJIC

MAJESTIC TWELVE, MAJESTIC 12, MAJESTIC-12, MJ-12, MAJIC, are all

forms of the

code name for the control group authorized by President Truman on

09/24/47.

The Director of the Central Intelligenge Agency (CIA) is the

Director of

Majestic Twelve, MJ-1. The control group was formed to oversee a

TOP SECRET

Research and Development & Intelligence Operation and was

responsible only to

the President. The need for this group was dictated by the finding

of a

downed FLYING SAUCER scattered over 2 sites near the town of

Roswell New

Mexico in July 1947. The dead bodys of 4 very small human like

ALIENS were

also found. MAJESTIC TWELVE is the most highly classified secret

in the

United States and its existance has never been divulged to

Congress. The

funds for MJ-12 and Aquarius are CIA confidential (non-appropriated).

DOCUMENTS

MAJESTIC TWELVE documents can be identified by the following;

TOP SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED DATA EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP

SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP

SECRET/MAJIC

EYES ONLY COPY___OF___

One of the above will appear both at the top and bottom of each

page. You

will never see one version in a document along with any other

version. Also

on each page will appear; T52-EXEMPT (E) or just EXEMPT. T52 is the

publication outlining procedures for automatic downgrade of all

security

classifications and the time period for declassification of each

security

level. This information is never to be declassified. Each page of

each

document will be numbered consecutively and the number of pages

will appear

upon the cover sheet. Copys of MAJESTIC TWELVE beyond the original

number

are forbidden.

PROJECTS under MAJESTIC TWELVE

The operations listed here were current as late as 1976 with absolute

certainty and are still operational to the best of our knowledge.

The names

of the original operations were changed several times over the

years and

eventually evolved into those listed.

PROJECT SIGN (PROWORD) MAJIC

The first project under MAJESTIC TWELVE. The mission of project

sign was

essentially the same as that which PROJECT AQUARIUS evolved into.

PROJECT

SIGN referred to aliens as Extraterrestrial Biological Entities.

The reasons

for the absorbtion of PROJECT SIGN by PROJECT AQUARIUS were mainly

of a

political and security nature. PROJECT AQUARIUS stripped the Air

Force and

Army Generals of their historic control of the UFO/IAC projects and

placed

most of it under the Intelligence umbrella.

PROJECT AQUARIUS (PROWORD) MAJIC

Established in 1953 by President Eisenhower under control of MJ-12

and PROJECT

SIGN. The Project contains all information collected by the United

States

since it began investigating UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects)

and IAC's

(Identified Alien Craft). At the time we saw this information it

existed in

approximately 15 or 16 volumes. This project became an independent

project

when PROJECT SIGN was eliminated in 1960. PROJECT AQUARIUS referred

to aliens

as Alien Life Forms. The mission of PROJECT AQUARIUS was to gather

all

scientific, technological, medical, and intelligence information

from UFO &

IAC sightings and contacts with Alien Life Forms. The information

was to be

used in the space program.

PROJECT SIGMA (PROWORD) AQUARIUS

Established in 1954 as part of PROJECT SIGN. The mission of PROJECT

SIGMA was

to establish communication with the aliens. First communication was

established in 1959 through binary computer language. On April 25,

1964 a USAF

(OSI) officer met with aliens at a prearranged desert location in

New Mexico.

Information was exchanged and a basic understanding was reached

after several

hours. It was learned through this effort that several species of

alien

life existed. Communication was eventually established with all of

them.

Through communications it was determined that 3 catagorys existed.

The three

catagorys are MALEVOLENT (DANGEROUS), BENEVOLENT (GOOD-HELPFUL),

and NEUTRAL

(OBSERVERS ONLY) The project has been extremely successful.

PROJECT PLATO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1960 after the

United States

established communications with the aliens. The mission of PROJECT

PLATO was

to establ ish diplomatic re lations with the aliens. Project Plato

made

agreements in order to prevent hostilitys between the United States

and the

aliens. An agreement was made with the MALEVOLENT aliens whereby

they could

abduct humans. The purpose of these abductions were to provide

blood and

other biological fluids as food for the aliens. The aliens agreed

to furnish a

list periodically to MJ-12 of the names of those abducted. PROJECT

PLATO took

whatever steps neccessary to prevent public disclosure.

* PROJECT PLUTO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS

Established in 1947 after the Roswell incident. The mission of

PROJECT PLUTO

was to recover all crashed or downed alien craft, to recover all

evidence of

alien presence or technology, and to recover all alien bodies

(alive or dead).

PROJECT PLUTO developed cover stories to satisfy press and civilian

curiosity.

PROJECT PLUTO was authorized use of deadly force and/or relocation

to insure

secrecy. PROJECT PLUTO was responsible for and biological

intelligence of the

Alien Life Forms.

PROJECT POUNCE (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1968. The

mission of

PROJECT POUNCE was to evaluate all UFO/IAC information pertaining

to space

technology. The goal was to duplicate the technology and/or

improve upon it.

Ultimate use of the technology would establish the United States as

the

dominate world power and close the gap in any confrontation with

the aliens.

PROJECT REDLIGHT (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1954. The

mission

REDLIGHT was to test a recovered alien craft. The mission was

accomplished in

part only. PROJECT REDLIGHT was terminated in 1963 after every

(flyable)

recovered craft exploded during test flights. There were no

survivors among

the human test pilots.

PROJECT SNOWBIRD (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The

mission of

PROJECT SNOWBIRD was to test fly a recovered alien craft. The

project was on

going the last time I saw this information.

PROJECT ???????? (PROWORD) AQUARIUS (NOTE...We are recall the name

of this

project nor have we been able to get response from anyone on it.

At the time

we saw the information the project was ongoing. It cannot be

determined if

this project is still in existence.) The mission of this project

was to

develop a low frequency pulsed sound generator. The energy

produced from this

generator was to be concentrated so that it could be aimed and used

as a

weapon in order to destroy the alien craft and beam weapons. The

alien beam

weapons were described as ange but able to incapacitate or destroy

any weapons

system known to date (1972). The aliens also possess a beam weapon

which is

described as being able to paralyse any human within range. Tests

were

described as having shown that the alien craft and weapons were

extremely

sensitive to low frequency pulsed sound waves. This weapon was to

be used to

incapacitate the alien defenses in order to allow PROJECT EXCALIBUR

to succeed

in its mission. The initial technology used in this project was

capture the

Germans during WW- II. The German sound generators were described

as being

able to knock down reinforced concrete buildings and shatter 4"

thick armour

from a great range. This technology is believed to further

substantiate that

Germany had recovered alien craft and had possibly had some

dealings with the

aliens prior to or during WW-II. Documents captured during and

after WW-II

indicated that an alien craft had been recovered by Germany in

1939. A German

built flying saucer was captured dur last few months of WW-II.

PROJECT EXCALIBUR (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The

mission of

PROJECT EXCALIBUR is to develop a weapons system capable of

destroying the

alien underground base after the alien beam weapons have been

incapacitated or

destroyed. The alien underground base is located beneath an indian

reservation near the small town of Dulce, New Mexico. The device

must be

capable of penetrating 1,000 meters of tufa / hard pack soil and

sustain no

operational damage. This typ is commonly found in New Mexico where

the alien

base is located. Missile apogee must not exceed 30,000 feet AGL.

Impact

deviation will now exceed 50 meters. The device will carry a 1

megaton

warhead.

PROJECT BLUE BOOK A U.S. Air Force project establiahed to determine

whether

UFO's pose a threat to the security of the United States and to

determine

whether UFO's exhibit any unique scientific information or advanced

technology

which could contribute to scientific or technical research.

PROJECT was

successful in its primary mission outlined above. PROJECT BLUE

BOOK was not

quite so successful in its secondary mission which was to publicly

explain

away the UFO phenomenon as natural or known phenomenon in order to

eleminate

public interest. To completely fulfill the secondary mission it

was decided

that an outside commission of distinguished scientists would be con

convened in

order to permanantly lay the issue to rest. After this 'study' was

completed

(Condon Commission) the Air Force state the continuation of Project

Blue Book

cannot be justified, either on the ground of national security or

in the

interest of science. PROJECT BLUE BOOK was abandoned and its

mission and

information was consolidated under PROJECT AQUARIUS in 1969.

SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS Contracted to the

University

of Colorado in 1966 and Chaired by Dr. Edward U. Condon. The

results of the

panel were dictated before the first meeting. Despite objections

of the other

panel members, Dr. Cond le to fulfill the mission. The general

conclusion was

that "nothing has come from the study of UFOs in the past 21 years

that has

added to scientific knowledge." A panel from the National Academy

of Sciences

agreed. The press and the public were satisfied. Except for a hard

core

element of UFO believers the issue died in the public forum.

OPERATION UFO (NSA OPERATION IN SUPPORT OF PROJECT PLUTO) The

mission of

Operation UFO was to form intelligence teams versed in all of the

knowledge

learned which would be the first on scene of any UFO crash site in

order to

secure the technology and prevent it from falling into foreign

hands. Several

teams existed over the world. The United States was specifically

concerned

that it did not fall into Soviet hands. This mission was to be

accomplished

no matter the country of occurrance. Many subsequent ALIEN CRAFT

recoverys

would occur in foreign countrys as well as the United States. UFO

was also

used to recover downed space hardware (especially So d to recover

nuclear

weapons which became lost (usually by accident).

OPERATION MOONDUST (SUPPORTED SPACE PROGRAM & UFO) The mission of

Operation

Moondust was to provide a cover which would neutralize public

curiosity while

recovery of an ALIEN CRAFT was being conducted. The teams that

made up the

compliment of Moondust were the same teams that made up UFO.

Moondust was made

public and its mission (to the public) was to identify and recover

United

States space hardware which might fall to earth. s a bonified

mission when

circumstances dictated.

OPERATION BLUEFLY (SUPPORTED UFO & MOONDUST) The mission of

operation Bluefly

was to provide QUICK REACTION COMBAT TEAMS known as ALPHA teams

(fight for

technology if neccessary), mechanical and technological support in

recovery,

rapid and secure transport to secure storage and examination areas.

There are

several of these storage and examination areas in order to limit

distance

traveled and thus limit the possible chance of an accident that cou

e cargo to

public knowledge. Several teams existed over the world. Recovery

and

transport of both EBEs (dead or alive) and Alien craft were

accomplished.

Bluefly was also utilized in event of recovery of space objects (of

terrestrial origin), and event of recovery of lost nuclear weapons

(usually

due to accident).

NOTE....This account of the history and current status of MAJESTIC

TWELVE and

the Alien Life Forms has been kept brief. We believe that the

intent, however,

has been served with th on provided. The whole story would fill

several

hundred volumes. We realize that even with the combined effort of

several

memorys we have probably made some mistakes. We have tried to

minimize the

mistakes and feel that what is represented is true and correct to

the best of

our combined knowledge.

Message #7186 - ASK_UFO

Date : 30-Aug-91 0:40

From : Don Ecker

To : All

Subject : EXPOSE VI

From 1988

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LEAR AND COOPER: AN EXPLANATION

(But Not an Apology)

Jim Speiser

10/26/88

Ordinarily, I don't feel I have to explain my actions

regarding this

board or this network. I think I've developed a pretty good

reputa-

tion for reliability and fairness. I certainly owe nothing

in the

way of an explanation to Messrs. Cooper and Lear. However, I

can see

where some confusion may have arisen regarding my actions,

especial-

ly on the part of Don Ecker, whom I have a great deal of

respect

for, and on the part of other users who have discreetly

inquired as

to my reasons.

These things always seem to come best in the form of

chronologies,

and so, a brief chronology follows.

Bill Cooper first contacted this board with a story of a

sighting he

had on board a submarine in 1966. The story (TIRU-1.UFO) was

forward-

ed to Vickie Cooper for inclusion in a possible story in

UFO Maga-

zine. It was also sent to Stan Friedman for verification.

This was

back in August.

I learned from Vickie Cooper that Bill (no relation) had had a con-

versation with her in which the Majestic-12 documents had come

up. When

she mentioned the "proword" "MAJIC", he claimed to have seen

that word on

several documents back in his days with CINCPACFLT (Commander

in Chief,

Pacific Fleet). About a week later, I received the first of many

files from

Cooper, in which he implied that he had firsthand contact with or

knowledge of

individuals connected with MJ-12. (see GUIDANCE.DOC). He

further implied

that anyone possessing this knowledge was in great danger. I

forwarded

this file to both Stanton Friedman and Jamie Shandera, to see

whether any of

the information in it checked out. I later found out that it did not.

In the meantime, Cooper took a more active role in the public mes-

sage base. He claimed publicly that he had lost his $75,000/year job

as a marketing director, two days after having spoken with Stan

Friedman. He stated that he would not be providing any more info for

this reason. In the meantime, several more documents written by

Cooper filtered through the ParaNet system, by way of our Ft. Smith

board. They were uploaded anonymously, but were written by Cooper.

They each contained the same preamble, which claimed that the info

was for myself and for Stanton Friedman only, and that we were in

great danger for possessing the info contained therein. (DANGER.DOC,

MUGGER.DOC, PICNIC2.DOC).

At around this time, a user named Jeff Felix began using the

board, and

asked via chat for a private meeting between him and myself. We

set up a

meet at the Jerry's on Scottsdale Road in Tempe (the same one at

which the

Phoenix Skeptics hold their monthly meetings.) At this meeting,

Felix, who

is all of about 24, told a bizarre tale of having been an NSA

cryptology

technician, of having been "fooling around" on the NSA

computer, trying to

come up with an encryption program, and had "stumbled across"

the Majestic

file, the Aquarius file, the whole ball of wax. "Its all true," he

told us,

"the underground bases, the aliens, the crashed saucers, etc." He

claimed

that with a modified modem, he could get back in to the files.

Naturally, I

was extremely skeptical, and a few days later when I asked Felix a

few

questions on the phone, testing his knowledge of the most basic

intelligence

terminology, I became flat-out incredulous when he failed the

test.

What was even more revealing was that Bill Cooper had provided me

with some

of the questions I asked Felix, and I have a captured chat session

with

Cooper in which he expressed his doubts of Felix's veracity.

In my last online chat with Felix, he mentioned something called

Project X-calibur (his spelling). He said he had discussed it with

Cooper on the phone before he had called me. Cooper later told me

that no, Felix had not mentioned it. He told me he had heard of it,

but that it was VERY Top Secret, above his level. He said he didn't

know anything more about it.

Much to my surprise, Cooper later called to tell me that Project

Excalibur is real, that his sources told him it was a project by MJ-

12 to extract technology from the aliens. He told me that it was

important I get in touch with Felix, that if "the kid knows about

[Excalibur], he's for real." Felix, in the meantime, would give me

no information about Excalibur, except that a friend of his who had

done the same thing he had (broken into the NSA's Cray-3 computer,

the most advanced and secure supercomputer in the world), had "stum-

bled across" the Excalibur file.

My thinking on Cooper and Felix at this time began to center on the

thought that the two of them were scamming me behind my back, and I

had visions of having ParaNet become a home for unwed paranoids.

When John Lear returned from his long absence, and began to join

with Cooper in a series of mutual admiration sessions, I saw things

getting out of control.

I knew by now that Cooper was either engaging in fantasy role-play-

ing, or something more sinister. The word "disinformation" has been

bandied about quite freely during this entire MJ-12 mess. Now,

please consider: Cooper's credentials as a Naval NCO with a back-

ground in intelligence seem to check out. His information is self-

contradicting and paranoid, and does NOT check out, at least

with the

several intelligence sources I have contacted. After the UFO

COVER-UP

broadcast, Cooper sent ANOTHER file by way of ParaNet RHO in

BOISE, called

his 10-15-88 Position Paper. In it he completely contradicts his

entire

previous thesis, and claims that the MJ-12 scenario as painted by

Moore's

group (and implicitly, by himself) is a hoax. Further, he claims

to be in

full agreement with John Lear (which agreement seems to be

mutual, based

on Lear's support of Cooper). Now I ask you, if agents of

disinformation are

at work to discredit the field of Ufology, who is the more

likely

suspect? Moore/Shandera/Friedman, who claimed from the

beginning to have

videotapes of bona fide government agents, and produced them

for live TV,

or Cooper/Lear, who seemingly plagiarized the Moore documents,

gave them

a slightly different spin, then turned around and contradicted

themselves

the moment it became public knowledge, and can't even seem to

agree with

each other, yet support each other publicly? My locking out of

Cooper was

actually on the advice of Cooper himself, who accused William

Pitts and the

New Project Blue Book of being a military intelligence cover

operation, and

ParaNet of being an unwitting disinformation pipeline. To avoid

becoming

such a pipeline, which I'm sure no one here wants, I simply got

rid of the

most likely suspect.

As to Lear, I don't think any self-respecting Sysop would

stand for

being accused of borderline treason on his public board,

especially from a

man who proudly displays in his office enlarged telephoto-graphs

of the

installation at Groom Lake, the country's most secret tactical

aircraft

development area, obtained by himself after attempting to enter

the

area illegally. His unqualified support for Cooper, which seems

to be

based solely on Cooper's unqualified support for him, I found

distasteful and somehow disturbing, in light of the fact that

Cooper has

contradicted Lear's information. And consider: John Lear entered

Ufology in

early 1987, when it became known to a few that Moore was going

to release

MJ-12. Lear is known to have been a CIA operative in the past. He

wears his

patriotism on his office walls, in the form of autographed

pictures of him-

self standing with G. Gordon Liddy. Again, if disinformation

is taking

place, I ask you, who is the more likely source?

And is it working? Well, consider. What if

Moore/Shandera/Friedman

DO have the real goods? If so, isn't it a shame that

so many

intelligent people, people such as Don Ecker, watched UFO

COVER-UP

LIVE, and instead of asking if MSF were for real, began

asking if

Lear and Cooper were for real? This, despite the obvious

contra-

dictions and obfuscations listed below:

"The documents you are looking for are for the most part

labeled TOP

SECRET MAJIC-RESTRICTED DATA" -- Bill Cooper, 22 August

"EVERY DOCUMENT YOU SEE WHICH USES...`MAJIC' IS A FRAUD!"

-- Bill

Cooper, 15 October

"The documents produced by Mr. Moore et al are photographic

copies

of genuine documents which were procured at great risk."

-- Bill

Cooper, 22 August

"I CAN PROVE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT TO ANYONE THAT MOST

OF THE

INFORMATION RELEASED BY WILLIAM MOORE, ET AL...ARE

OBVIOUS AND

DELIBERATE FORGERIES." -- Bill Cooper, 15 October

"Hmmm...let me think on that one for a while." -- Bill

Cooper, when

I told him that the Aquarius Telex contained a

compartmentalized

routing code at the top that indicated to anyone trained in

military

communications/intelligence that the document was either

fraudulent

or to be ignored for some reason. Phone conversation, 11 October

"The code is ZNY." -- Bill Cooper, phone conversation, 12

October.

"I got it, Jim, I just remembered after I hung up with you,

its NOT

ZNY, that means something else, but its _________" (my

deletion). --

Bill Cooper, phone conversation, 12 October

"There is a code at the head of the AQUARIUS TELEX that

tells me

that the information contained within it is not to be acted

upon nor

in any way believed...________ on the telex net informs all

stations

that the message CANNOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY...The code is

really a

type of slang/graffiti that was used by a lot of enlisted

men, and

sometimes by officers. I had a lot of fun with a

couple of

Ufologists on that one. THEY STILL BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE

TESTING

ME." -- Bill Cooper, 15 October

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except where

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